Talk:Newton's Identities/Proof 2

Why do you think it is a good idea to, without any prior discussion and/or alignment, introduce a new format for proofs and "explanations" without first demonstrating some examples in your own user space?

Careful attention has been given to the exact structure and wording of all headings and their structure.

With a corpus of many thousands of proofs, it is probably worthwhile to discuss before editing in main space, because the inconsistency of editors just freewheeling around has caused considerable problems in the past. After all, if we are going to be a collective of idiosyncratic minds working on their own little pet projects, then we might as well write books or math blogs.

It is the integration that sets ProofWiki apart. And exactly this integration is endangered by having too many variants of style left and right.

Did you consider the nonlocal impact of your actions? Comments much appreciated. As it stands we might have to revert or set apart your work, which would be a shame. But the damage of isolated activity, the past has shown, does outweigh the added benefit of the new content. &mdash; Lord_Farin (talk) 14:30, 15 December 2019 (EST)

The Newton's Identities page was broken. The "new format" came from page Evolute of Ellipse. The copied Evolute of Ellipse idea seemed to match the linked subpage idea in Help:FAQ/General questions/Where is the proof?!. ProofWiki:Sandbox/Template is my method for testing. It would be a relief to contribute to ProofWiki without the pressure of editing an existing page or creating a subpage. Tell me how that works (Prague time zone here). --Gbgustafson (talk) 16:49, 15 December 2019 (EST)


 * To submit new ideas for structuring a page, or develop other ideas, you can start crafting your own sandbox at User:Gbgustafson/Sandbox which is of a more permanent nature than the general sandbox. You can also try multiple pages at once there.


 * I'll elaborate more later, but let me add that the issue I take with the "Explanation" is how you are placing it on the page in general; not as an outline considered part of the proof, but rather as a separate entity that in heading style and location seems erratic to me. But as said, we can discuss this further at some point. &mdash; Lord_Farin (talk) 16:57, 15 December 2019 (EST)


 * issue .. with "Explanation" : I agree with you, it is ugly (decided when created). Guilty: I chose a heading at random in frustration. I would like to craft something like Evolute of Ellipse. ProofWiki HELP and FAQ have been useful but fall short of explaining the structure of Evolute of Ellipse.


 * I'll elaborate more later - Please do give an example of a recent page that illustrates current House Style for pages with subpage links.--Gbgustafson (talk) 05:00, 16 December 2019 (EST)


 * Practically all of them. Try the "Random proof" link. Or read the house style guide. --prime mover (talk) 05:56, 16 December 2019 (EST)